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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
In the 308 page the Bishop is avowed to be a Pastor, here he is Superior to a Pastor, and therefore no Pastor: for there can be no comparison / but between two things at the lest: and it is very strange / that a man should be higher then him self. So that to defend these bishops / and Archbishops / the Ans. hath need have ⟨p. CXLII⟩a new grammar / and a new logic: for they transcend / and go beyond all the rules / that ever yet were heard of. I know what is used with us, but is that a sufficient answer? is this your defence off the book? I prove him to be deacon / and you can not deny it: thereupon I conclude / that he is inferior to the pastor, and you say / I know an archdeacon with us, may be minister off the word. But the Question is not what he is / but what he may be by the word off God: for you ought to have showed / that a man may have the order off pastor and deacon at once. For if he be but a deacon / and no pastor: then being inferior to the Pastor / he ought not by him self alone / judge of the sufficiency off a Pastor. if he be both a Deacon / and a pastor / at once: then in stead off ministers / you bring monsters into the church / and make off the hand and the eye / which are two members / but one. Unless you vvill say / that he that is promoted from one Ecclesiastical degree unto another: keepeth the same still which he had before he was promoted. by which reason / the bishop / and the Archbishop are deacons also: because they sometimes had that degree. And then it is required off them / that they do the offices off all those functions / the names Whereof they bear: for there are no idle / and void names in the church / which can be severed from doing the duties / that those titles require. And it is as if a man passing from one office / or dignity in the common wealth / unto an other / until he come to the highest: being in that office / or dignity / should be said still to have all the under offices / and dignities by the which he hath passed. And not that only / but when a man from private estate / is called ether to office in church / or common wealth: together with the public parson / which he hath gotten / he keepeth his private estate still.
In the 308 page the Bishoppe is auowed to be a Pastor, here he is Superior to a Pastor, and therfore no Pastor: for there can be no comparison / but betwene twoo thinges at the leste: ād yt is very strange / that a man shoulde be higher then him selffe. So that to defend these bishops / and Archebishops / the Ans. hath neede haue