The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

It hath been sometimes (I grant) that either through ignorance off the institution of God / or through ambition of some / which desire to have all in their own hands / or upon some extreme necessity / the pastor hath done that which belongeth to the office off a deacon / and contrariwise. But although I should grant / that one might be ordained to be both Pastor / and Deacon (which is as monstrous in Theology / as it is in nature / that one / and the same should be half a man / and half a ⟨p. CXLIII⟩woman) yet you help not your self that way. For in saying that he may be a minister of the word, you confess that he may be also none / but a deacon only: whereof also there are examples i• in our church. Last off all / those Archdeacons which have the degree off a pastor in our church / do not examine by that they are Pastors / but only in respect that they be Archdeacons. And so whether he be pastor / or deacon together / or deacon only: the disorder remaineth still / that the inferior / and he whose calling is contented with smaller gifts / is made judge off his sufficiency which is superior / and whose calling requireth greater gifts. Whether the Archdeacon have the examination committed unto him only: I refer me unto the book off ordering ministers / and to that which I have before alleged. Here I would have the reader mark / that this disorder / of ordaining ministers / at the testimony off an Archdeacon / came from Rome: as Jerome ¹both noteth / and confuteth.

Yt hathe bene sometimes (I graunte) that either throwghe ignorance off the institution of God / or throwghe ambition of some / which desire to haue all in their owne handes / or vpon some extreme necessitie / the pastor hathe donne that whiche belongeth to the office off a deacon / and contrariwise. But althowghe I should graunte / that one might be ordeined to be bothe Pastor / and Deacon (whiche is as monstruous in Theologie / as yt is in nature / that one / and the same shoulde be halfe a man / and halfe a ⟨p. CXLIII⟩woman) yet yow helpe not your selfe that way. For in sayinge that he may be a minister of the worde, yow confesse that he may be also none / but a deacon onely: whereoff also there are examples i in our churche. Last off all / those Archedeacons which haue the degree off a pastor in our churche / do not examine by that they are Pastors / but onely in respecte that they be Archedeacons. And so whether he be pastor / or deacon together / or deacon onely: the disorder remaineth still / that the inferior / and he whose callinge is contented with smaller giftes / is made iudge off his sufficiency whiche is superior / and vvhose callinge requirethe greater giftes. Whether the Archedeacon haue the examination committed vntho him onely: I referre me vnto the booke off ordering ministers / and to that whiche I haue before alledged. Here I vvould haue the reader mark / that this disorder / of ordeininge ministers / at the testimonie off an Archedeacon / came from Rome: as Ierome