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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
There remaineth only / whether to take knowledge off him / he should come dwell with the parish, and how long, and at whose charges, and whether before the death off the former pastor, or after. If I should say / that the journey he taketh to the bishop / he should bestow in going to the parish / and be amongest them / what would follow? then he must be there a great while / or ever they can have trial off him / and thereby grow charges. As who should say / the whole church can not take as good notice off him / as the bishop being but one: or as though the bishop can take better knowledge off his conversation in one hour / then the whole church can do in one week. If therefore the church / for trial off his conversation / have need to keep him at her charges a quarter off a year: the bishop hath need / to keep every one that he will admit / in his house a whole year. Which if he should do / I doubt not but we should have an easy disputation. And if the Bishop may proceed to election / upon the testimony off others: why may not the ⟨p. CXLVI⟩church do the same? That which was in old time touching colleges off learning in every city: might be now much more if the Bishops palaces / and the Canons cloisters / which serve now to nourish a sort off idle serving / and singing men / were turned into colleges / and nurseries off painful students.
Ther remaineth onely / whether to take knowledge off him / he shoulde come dwell with the parishe, and how longe, and at whose charges, and whether before the death off the former pastor, or after. Yf I should saie / that the iourney he taketh to the bishopp / he should bestowe in goinge to the parishe / and be amongest them / vvhat vvoulde follow? then he must be there a great while / or euer they can haue triall off him / and therby grow charges. As who should saie / the vvhole church can not take as good notice off him / as the bishop being but one: or as thowghe the bishop can take better knowledge off his conuersation in one houre / then the vvhole church can doo in one weeke. Yf therfore the churche / for triall off his conuersation / haue neede to keepe him at hir charges a quarter off a yere: the bishop hath nede / to kepe euerie one that he will admit / in his howse a whole yeare. Which if he should doo / I dowte not but we should haue an easie disputation. And if the Bishop maie proceade to election / vppon the testimonie off others: why maie not the ⟨p. CXLVI⟩