A18080:330
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
and containing also an assurance off the lords hand / and help always ready in assisting of him: must needs be holden still for ordinary / to be used in all elections. The prayer be fore the lot in the 1. of the Acts / being expressedly used in all elections: And being 1now by so much more necessary then it was then / as the ability is less now in the choosers / then it was then: must needs ⟨p. CXXXIX⟩be thought a pattern / to frame our elections by.
and conteining also an assurance off the lordes hande / and helpe alwaies readie in assisting of him: muste needes be holden still for ordenary / to be vsed in all elections. The praier be fore the lot in the 1. of the Actes / being expressedly vsed in all elections: And being 1nowe by so muche more necessary then it was then / as the habilitie is lesse nowe in the chusers / then yt was then: muste needes ⟨p. CXXXIX⟩be thoughte a paterne / to frame owre elections by.
- 1To the fourth.
And where you say / there was no such thing as prayer in the […] off the Acts: it is a token you have little truth in you / which will deny that which is expressed manifestly in the text. for although S. Luke doeth not declare / what were the words they used: 1yet there being prayer made for them there was such a thing. That in the 1. Act. two were presented for one office / that was / that way might be made to the divine election by lot: that one only was taken / was because there was but one place void. That in the sixth of the acres 7. were presented / was / because the church was thought to have need off so many / for the provision off their poor: that all were ordained / was for that the Apostles liked well off them all. Be there yet any more behind? I looked when you should say / that in the first off the acts there was a bowte six score / in the sixth almost six thousand: there but eleven Apostles / here twelve: there speaking with one tongue / here with many. For the matters in controversy / that is to say / whether the peoples consent is to be had / &c. Thes differences would have served you / as well as those: and possibly if they had taken you in the head / you would never have let them go / without giving some tribute to the lengthening off your book. But in all this diversity you reckon up / there is a perpetual harmony against the election made by one bishop: against the ambition off the elder which thrusteth out his fellow elders: against the church robbers / especially which bend there force / to spoil the people of there consent / in election off their ministers. If you had showed any diversity in this: you might have helped your cause somewhat.