A18080:370
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
There remaineth to answer that / which is alleged off Pauls receiving into the company off the Apostles / by Testimony of one. which if I should answer as M. D. doth / I would ask him how he proveth / that which he saith is manifest: for it is not expressed there / that they received him upon Barnabas report. If I had said so / he would have charged me with arrogance / th•• I dare set down that / which the holy ghost hath not revealed. For it is said he was received / but that he was out off hand received, or at Barnabas report, it is not expressed. And if I would walk his way / I could answer / that it might be / that they first enquired off the truth off those things / which Barnabas testified / before they received him. But I leave this answer / to those which think there is no light in the world / to discover such follies: and think / that S. Lukes meaning was / to show that he was received upon Barnabas witness.
There remaineth to answere that / vvhich is alledged off Paules receiuynge into the companie off the Apostles / by Testymonie of one. which if I should answere as M. D. dothe / I would aske him how he proueth / that vvhich he saith ys manifest: for yt ys not expressed there / that they receiued him vppon Barnabas reporte. If I had said so / he would haue charged me with arrogancie / th•• I dare set downe that / which the holie goste hath not reueled. For it is said he was receiued / but that he was owt off hand receiued, or at Barnabas report, it is not expressed. And if I would walke his way / I could answere / that it might be / that they fyrst enquired off the trewth off those thinges / which Barnabas testified / before they receyued hym. But I leaue this answere / to those which thinke there ys no light in the worlde / to discouer suche follies: and thinke / that S. Lukes meaning was / to shew that he was receiued vpon Barnabas witnesse.
For answer therefore I say: first / that he useth weight / and weight / measure and measure / which being abominable before God / in buying and selling such base things: it is seven fold more / in this holy traffic off the glorious word off God. For when we give M. D. for proof off trial in the ministers election / that which was used in the Deacons / which is like / and comprehended under one head: he layeth in so heavy a weight / whereby he would make us believe / that the prose is to light / saying / that it is of the election of deacons, and maketh nothing for us. Now when he delivereth us a proof / that an election may pass by one witness / he putteth in a lighter weight / for he bringeth in an example off S. Paul / one not then to be chosen / but already chosen: Which came not to receive any authority / whereby he might be enabled / to do that afterward which he could not do before: but to confer of that / which he had done before: Which came not to submit him self to any trial / but which had as good right to try / as to be