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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Take you good leave / to speak all good off the university: it shall be my recreation / after your importunate barkinges. It is my daily prayer it may goo well with her / and although I be from her. yet I carried some of her bowels with me: so that whether there be in her / either just cause of joy / or sorrow: I have them in common with her. I can take no exception unto your 450. university preachers / not having the register of the university. but you did warily say / known preachers, and not godly preachers: for some of those / have troubled the university / and other places with popish ⟨p. CLIII⟩leaven of purgatory / free will / and Abraham's besom cut out by a larger measure / then ever our saviour Christ taught. But to le• the corruption off some / and the inability off other some / with the so rare preaching off certain (that as at the appearing off a comet / or blazing star / or some other notable change in the heavens: so at their preaching / there may be fear off some calamity to come) to let all those go / to help to make up this garland off 450. you ought not have forgotten to subduct / those which are taken away by death / those which are thrust out off the ministry / and muzzled by the bishops / those which are mewed in cloisters / those which beside the necessary use off the university / remain / there / and those which having charges in the country / lurk there. These being subducted / except the accounts do rise better then you show: I fear me / that I may cut of from the number of 2000. able ministers in the whole church of England / which I assigned before: as many as you take from that number / which I reported to be in France. And alas what are these five loves / and 2. fishes to so many thousand churches. So that if you had not done it at unawares / and had not had an other end / then is false out: we should have had to thank you for this levy of ministers / which the university hath bred / as that which strengtheneth the fewness off able ministers / which I assigned.
Take yow good leaue / to speake all good off the vniuersitie: it shalbe my recreation / after your importunate barkinges. yt is my dailie praier it may goo well with her / and althowghe I be from her. yet I caried some of her boweles vvith me: so that whether there be in her / either iust cause of ioye / or sorowe: I haue them in com̄on with her. I can take no exceptiō vnto yowr 450. vniuersitie preachers / not hauīg the register of the vniuersitie. but yow did warely saie / knowē preachers, and not godly preachers: for some of those / haue troubled the vniuersitie / and other places with popishe