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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The other place / of entering in clothed with linen, compared with this: hath no colour off argument. For it doth not follow / that ⟨p. CLXIII⟩because the ceremonial law is abrogated / therefore the judicial is also. Are these your circumstances / that declare the meaning off the place? let it be admitted that both these laws / the one which goeth before / the other which followeth after / are abrogated: doth it follow therefore that this is also / of rejecting idolatrous priests From the ministry? That which is alleged by the admonition / is the 10. verse. of 44. chapter / and although one of the places alleged by you / be the verse next going before / yet the second is the seventh verse / after the place of the admonition. Now if it be sound reason which you allege / all those laws in the Testament which are so placed / that they have either a ceremonial / or judicial law next going before them / and another following within the compass off 7. verses: are either quite abrogated / or else not perpetual. Which if it be true: fare well Moses / fare well the Prophets / fare well the moral laws off God: they may all depart with the D. good leave / nay for that they will not serve him / he thrusteth them out. Before he picked them here / and there: but this is an engine / to overthrow them all at once. For I appeal to all your knowledges / which have ever read the law / if there be any one off the perpetual laws off God: which may not be found in some place off the law / and Prophets so placed as this is: and against the which this exception which the D. doth so boldly avouch / may not be made. I could I am well assured / run through all the commandments / and by this reason hurl them every one out of the church / if it were not folly to labour in confuting of such frenzies as these are: and the thing also were not so plain / as none of any reading in the old Testament / can be ignorant. so that his pen is a penknife to cut a sunder all the scriptures.
The other place / of entringe in clothed withe linnen, compared withe this: hath no coulour off argument. For it dothe not folowe / that ⟨p. CLXIII⟩because the ceremoniall law is abrogated / therfore the iudiciall is also. Are these your circūstances / that declare the meaning off the place? let it be admitted that bohte these lawes / the one which goeth before / the other which followeth after / are abrogated: doth it followe therefore that this is also / of reiecting idolatrous preistes From the ministerie? That vvhich is alleadged by the admonition / is the 10. verse. of 44. chapter / and althowghe one of the places alledged by yow / be the verse next going before / yet the second is the seuenth verse / after the place of the admonition. Now if it be sound reason which yow alledge / all those lawes in the Testament which are so placed / that they haue either a ceremoniall / oriudiciall law next going before them / and another following within the compasse off 7. verses: are either quite abrogated / or els not perpetuall. Which if it be trew: fare well Moses / fare well the Prophetes / fare well the morall lawes off God: they may all depart with the D. good leaue / nay for that they wil not serue him / he thrusteth them owt. Before he picked them here / and there: but this is an engine / to ouerthrowe them all at once. For I appeale to all your knowledges / vvhich haue euerreade the law / if there be any one off the perpetuall lawes off God: which may not be found in some place off the law / and Prophetes so placed as this is: and against the which this exceptiō which the D. doth so bouldly auouche / may not be made. I could I am well assured / runne throwgh all the cōmaundementes / and by this reason hurle them euerie one owt of the church / yf yt were not follie to labour in confutinge of suche phrēsies as these are: ād the thing also were not so plaine / as none of any reading in the oulde Testamēt / can be ignorāte. so that his pen̄e is a pēknife to cut a sonder al the scriptures.