The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

And as for the wicked preachers in the church off Philippos: first you are greatly abused. For although he write unto the Philpiane / yet these preachers he there speaketh off / were in the church of Rome / and not in the church of Philip. And then / if I should ask you how you know / that he did not will their ministry to be taken from them your own mouth condemneth you. For by your rule it is presumption / to speak any thing that the holy ghost hath not expressed. And it is not only not expressed / but it can not be gathered. For if you think / that therefore he willed them not to be deposed / because he was glad / that Christ was preached by them: you deceive your self. For he saith if he were offered up and should die ¹for confirmation of his ministry: yet he would rejoice in it, and requireth the whole church to rejoice with him for it. Would not therefore S. Paul have escaped the Tyrants hand / if he might ⟨p. CLXX⟩lawfully? or ought not the church of Philippos / to have forbidden the putting to death off the Apostle / if they could have done it? So that you see / a man may rejoice at the fruit off an action / that an other doeth: which if it lay in him to let / he ought not suffer to be done. For when as of evil doing / may come good / as we ought to be sorry at the evil which is done: so it is lawful for us to rejoice of the good / which hath followed that evil. And this distinction off rejoicing / S. Paul doth include in these ²words in this, which he setteth down to be / in that Christ is preached. As if he would say / it grieveth me that the word is preached by such men / but yet I am glad that it is preached.

And as for the wicked preachers in the church off Philippos: fyrst yow are greatlie abused. For althowghe he vvrite vnto the Philpiane / yet these preachers he there speaketh off / were in the church of Rome / and not in the church of Philip. And thē / if I should aske yow how yow know / that he did not will their ministerie to be taken from them your owne mouth condēneth yow. For by your rule it is presumption / to speake any thinge that the holie gost hathe not expressed. And it is not onelie not expressed / but it can not be gathered. For if yow thinke / that therfore he willed them not to be deposed / because he was gladd / that Christ was preached by them: yow deceiue your selfe. For he saith if he vvere offered vp and should die