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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
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If any man would here except against this answer / with the example of Judas / which did so traitorously behave him self in his office: it is not worth the answer. For who knoweth not / that that was done / that the Scripture might be fulfilled: and that for that cause our Saviour Christ / foreseeing the treason 1to come / did notwithstanding give him a place in that ministry? So that if they would conclude any thing off that example: they must conclude / that the church may choose one / which it thinketh vvill deceive the trust / that is laid upon him. I could here dispute / whether although he repented truly / yet forasmuch as he is subject to another such fall / as well as any other: it were both less danger for him / and less hurt for the church / to receive such an overthrow under an other captain never foiled / then under him / under whom it hath already been put to flight. But forasmuch as it is not so clear / and requireth a longer discourse: I am content to let that pass.
If any man vvoulde here excepte againste this answer / vvith the example of Iudas / vvhich did so traiterously behaue hym selfe in his office: yt ys not vvorthe the answer. For vvho knoweth not / that that was doone / that the Scripture mighte be fulfilled: and that for that cawse our Sauiour Christe / forseinge the treason 1to come / did notwithstandinge gyue him a place in that mynisterie? So that yf they vvoulde conclude any thinge off that example: they muste conclude / that the churche maie chuse one / which yt thincketh vvill deceyue the truste / that ys laide vppon him. I coulde here dispute / vvhether althowghe he repented trewlie / yet forsomuche as he is subiecte to another suche fall / as well as any other: yt vvere boothe lesse daunger for hym / and les hurte for the churche / to receiue suche an ouerthrowe vnder an other capitayne neuer foiled / then vnder him / vnder whō yt hathe already bene put to flighte. But forsomuche as yt is not so cleare / and requireth a longer discourse: I am contente to let that passe.