A18080:416
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
it can be by no means understanded off this council / that decreed against the restitution of the ministers which had fallen / which was holden before his time. Therefore the council there spoken of / was but a conference of bishops / or minsters which were near unto that place / where Cyprian remained. For if it had been any solemn council / Cypr. would not first have holden that / and then after they had decreed off matters in consultation (as it appeareth in that epistle they had) conferred with him by letters. And if he should: yet it doth manifestly appear / by that which I have alleged / that this was decreed long before. I will therefore wait / what advise you will take / to answer to this Council: which was both catholic / and general / and more ancient then that off Nice: putting you also in remembrance / what a great extoller off councils you be / when they make any thing for you.
it can be by no means vnderstanded off this councel / that decreed againste the restitution of the ministers whiche had fallen / vvhiche vvas holden before his time. Therfore the councell there spoken of / was but a conference of bishops / or minsters whiche were nere vnto that place / where Cyprian remained. For if it had bene anye solēne councell / Cypr. woulde not firste haue holden that / and then after they had decreed off matters in consultation (as yt appeareth in that epistle they had) conferred withe him by letters. And if he shoulde: yet yt dothe manifestly appeare / by that whiche I haue alledged / that this was decreed lōge before. I will therfore waite / what aduise yow will take / to answer to this Councell: which was bothe catholike / and generall / and more aunciente then that off Nice: puttinge yow also in remembrāce / what a greate extoller off councels yow be / when they make any thinge for yow.
None of the places which they alleged / declare any such meaning: and the place quoted out off Eze. manifestly declareth / that they meant of those which had fallen from the truth. Besides 1that all men may see / that you brought thes examples of M. ⟨p. CLXXXIIII⟩