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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Why? is this the proof you promise in your gloss / whereby you said / it should appear to be untrue that I alleged? Those great words made me hope after some strong reasons / if we will follow him here / he vvill lead us the ready way to the popish transubstantiation. For he sticketh in the very word / and vvill admit no sacramental speech / and therefore where the ark is called 1the lord off hosts, the king off glory: in his divinity / it must needs be taken so in deed / that the ark made off wood is 2very God. For in the words off the text it is expressly signified. And even as that is / so is this a sacramental speech: whereby they having the golden calf for a token / and sign of the presence of god / 3called it by the name off God. now having no reason but off the papists only / to warrant this opinion: off his accustomed liberality / in giving that which he can not hold / he admitteth for soothe that it is metonymically spoken yet after that by force off the truth ⟨p. CXC⟩/ it is writhen from him: he reacheth out his hand after it / saying / that it is but a conjecture. It is a certain truth M. W. and no conjecture: standing not upon the judgement off men / which I could allege of divers learned / that have written of that place: but upon unfailible reasons / whereof that is one which I have alleged / off the usual phrase off the scripture / in speaking of signs. And if it had been lawful for them / to have likened the majesty off God unto a calf / or to have had such a token off the presence off God: it had not been unlawful / to have called it Sacramentally / by the name off God.
Why? is this the profe yow promise in your glose / wherby yow saide / yt shoulde appeare to be vntrewe that I alledged? Those greate vvordes made me hope after some stronge reasons / yff we will folowe hym here / he vvill leade vs the ready waie to the popishe transubstantiation. For he stickethe in the very vvorde / and vvill admit no sacramental speache / and therfore vvhere the arke is called 1the lorde off hostes, the kinge off glorie: in his diuinitie / yt muste needes be taken so in deede / that the arke made off vvoode is