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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
For your places which you have heaped together here / I know them well / and had them before me when I wrote. You give me them in gross / without applying: you either could frame no argument of them / or feared the answer. I can not examine all those chapter. which you give me / oneles I would write a whole book off that matter only. You take up the Adm. because they apply not their scriptures / and frame not their arguments: yet they let not you wander in the whole chapter / but gave one verse to speak unto. I must also admonish you to bear more reverence unto the scripture, then to confound it with Baruch, and especially with the story off Bell, and the Dragon: if you vvill not be admonished / I vvill desire the reader to take heed off such confusion: there being as much difference between the one and the other / as between heaven and earth / God and man.
For your places which yow haue heaped together here / I knowe them wel / and had thē before me when I wrote. Yow gyue me them in grosse / withowte applyinge: yow either coulde frame no argumente of them / or feared the answer. I can not examin all those chapit. which yow giue me / oneles I woulde write a whole booke off that matter onelie. Yow take vp the Adm. becawse they applie not their scripturs / and frame not their argumētes: yet they let not yow wander in the vvhole chapiter / but gaue one verse to speake vnto. I muste also admonishe yow to beare more reuerence vnto the scripture, then to confounde yt vvith Baruche, and especially vvith the storie off Bell, and the Dracon: if yow vvill not be admonished / I vvill desyre the reader to take heede off suche confusion: there being as much differēce betwene the one and the other / as betwene heauen and earthe / God and man.
Why? is this the proof you promise in your gloss / whereby you said / it should appear to be untrue that I alleged? Those great words made me hope after some strong reasons / if we will follow him here / he vvill lead us the ready way to the popish transubstantiation. For he sticketh in the very word / and vvill admit no sacramental speech / and therefore where the ark is called 1