A18080:438
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Chap. 4. pag. 155.
IF Chrysostom had had any thing to say touching the election off Deacons: he should have spoken when time was / and when that place was handled. Yet for answer / the reader may understand / that Chrysost. in that place maketh comparison / between the election in the first off the Acts / and this: and showeth how the Apostles did otherwise there / then here. For there they chose two / which they set up before the church. So that when Chrysost. saith / the Apostles might have chosen the deacons: it may be he meaneth they might have chosen them / as they did the two / Mathias / and Barsabas: In which choice I have showed / the consent off the people was required. If 1there were but this place / which the D. citeth / I would stand upon this answer: but considering that Chrys. in another place / affirmeth that Peter might have chosen him self (which I would not keep from the knowledge off the reader) I will not deny but that Chrysost. might have here the meaning the D. supposeth. Whereto as I can by no means agree / upon the reasons both before / and after alleged so the D. is not helped. For when Chryso. commendeth Peter that he did all things by the advise off the church, nothing off his own authority, nothing with dominion: When he addeth also that the same was to avoid contention, 2and that nether he nor the rest off the Apostles should be thought to choose off favour: he declareth sufficiently that there is no bishop of that ether authority / or holiness off life / which in making the election without consent of the church / doth not both ⟨p. CXCIIII⟩lay him self / and his ministry open to suspicion of partiality: and give occasion off pernicious debates in the church.
IF Chrysostome had had anie thinge to saie towching the election off Deacons: he shoulde haue spokē vvhen tyme was / and when that place was handled. Yet for answere / the reader maye vnderstand / that Chrysost. in that place makethe comparison / betwen the election in the firste off the Actes / and this: and sheweth howe the Apostels did otherwise there / then here. For there they chose two / vvhiche they set vpp before the churche. So that vvhen Chrysost. saithe / the Apostels myght haue chosen the deacons: yt may be he meaneth they might haue chosen them / as they did the two / Mathias / and Barsabas: In whiche choise I haue shewed / the consente off the people was required. Yff