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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The Ans. which will prove nothing him self / but off whom we must take all most allthings at his bare word / hath notwithstanding a great grace in setting me to prove all things / 1be they never so manifest. Let him then understand / that this which he requireth proof off / is confirmed by the authority off master Call. and master Bulling. The manner off speech also is in Livy: where the consul is said to set up an other consul / into the place off him which was dead: when he did it not by his own authority only / but by voices off the Senate / and people.
The Ans. whiche will proue nothinge him selfe / but off whome wee muste take all moste althinges at his bare worde / hathe notwithstandinge a great grace in settinge me to proue all thinges / 1be they neuer so manifeste. Let him then vnderstande / that this whiche he requirethe profe off / is confirmed by the authoritie off maister Cal. and maister Bulling. The manner off speache also is in Liuy: where the consul is sayed to set vp an other consul / into the place off him whiche was dead: when he did yt not by his owne authoritie onely / but by voices off the Senate / and people.
- 1Institut. li. 4. ca. 3. s. 15. The former decade. Liuy 2. lib. ab urbe. Liu. 3. li. ab urbe. Divi. 3. p. 158.Institut. li. 4. ca. 3. s. 15. The former decade. Liuy 2. lib. ab vrbe. Liu. 3. li. ab vrbe. Diui. 3. p. 158.
If the Answ. could have first given his reader a drink off the river off forgetfulness, to have made him forget what he ought to prove / peradventure this talk off his might have some end: but if he carry in mind that he hath to prove / that almost all ecclesiastical writers do affirm, the word lifting up of hands to be used in the scriptures, for the solemn manner off ordaining ministers 1