A18080:443
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Mark I beseech you / what manner of election this was. The Apostles chose two / but such as were approved ministers before: what is this to prove / that the bishop may choose those / which were never approved / or chosen unto the ministry? The Apostles chose them to go an embassage / which should be ended in a few days: and what is that to prove / that a bishop may choose to a perpetual function? The Apostles did it without the consent off that church / unto which that matter did not belong: what is that to prove / that the bishop may choose a minister / without the consent off that church / which that election doth concern? for that election belonged not / unto the church of Jerusalem where they were: if it had there is no doubt but the Apostles would not have done it / without the consent thereof.
Marcke I beseche yow / what manner of election this was. The Apostels chose two / but suche as were approued mynisters before: what is this to proue / that the byshope maie chuse those / whiche were neuer approued / or chosen vnto the ministrie? The Apostels chose them to goe an embassage / whiche shoulde be ended in a fewe daies: and what is that to proue / that a bishoppe maie chuse to a perpetuall function? The Apostels did yt withowte the consente off that churche / vnto whiche that matter did not belonge: what is that to proue / that the bishope maie chuse a minister / withowte the consente off that churche / whiche that election dothe concerne? for that electiō belonged not / vnto the churche of Ierusalem where they were: if yt had there is no doubte but the Apostels woulde not haue doon yt / withowte the cōsente therof.
I leave here to speak of the difference of bishop / and Apostle / off twelve / and one: which being observed in the former section / needeth no rehearsal. And as this maketh nothing for the election off the bishop: so it maketh against that / for the which this place is brought. For if master Zuing. had been off that judgement / that Paul / and Barnabas did by them selves choose / without the church: he would likely have brought that example / considering that this can not be properly called any election to the Ministry / which was off those which were ministers before.