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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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For the sentence it self / what would he trow you conclude? That the bishop must have the election? if it be not that / I know not wherefore it is brought. If he mean to use it therun to: then must off necessity Master Bullinger speak thus / that he is elected by the common suffrages off the people / which is approved by the testimony off the best bishops. Do you laugh at thes things / when the D. is in so good earnest? Seeing he ⟨p. CCII⟩seeth that both the testimony off the Scripture / and writers old / and new (Papists only excepted) give interest off election unto the people: yet rather then it should fall from the bishops / he maketh a metamorphosis / and change off the Bishops into the people. The meaning off Master Bullinger (if any could be so ignorant as not to understand) is / that the faithful only have interest in the election off the church: and that the Papists have not / nor ought not to have to do in it / nether any other heretics / and schismatics from the church. Whatsoever it be / it can be by no means drawn to prejudice the churches interest / which he doth so plainly both here / and else where affirm.
For the sentence it selfe / what would he trowe yow conclude? That the bishope muste haue the election? yf it be not that / I knowe not wherfore yt is browghte. Yf he meane to vse yt therun to: then muste off necessitie Maister Bullinger speake thus / that he is elected by the commō suffrages off the people / whiche is approued by the testimonie off the beste bishops. Doe yow lawghe at thes thinges / when the D. is in so good earneste? Seinge he ⟨p. CCII⟩seeth that both the testimonie off the Scripture / ād writers oulde / and newe (Papistes onely excepted) gyue intereste off election vnto the people: yet rather then yt shoulde fall from the bishopps / he maketh a metamorphosis / and change off the Bishoppes into the people. The meaninge off Maister Bullinger (if any coulde be so ignorāte as not to vnderstand) is / that the faithfull onely haue intereste in the election off the churche: and that the Papistes haue not / nor owghte not to haue to doo in it / nether any other heretickes / and scismatickes from the churche. Whatsoeuer yt be / yt can be by no means drawne to preiudice the churches interest / whiche he dothe so plainly bothe here / and els where affirme.