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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Those verses off the 22. and 23. off the 25. Acts which you ⟨p. CXCIX⟩allege / show who bore the sweat / in the making of that decree: But yet in that the letters were written in the churches / and not only in the Apostles / and Elders names: and for that the decree 1is ascribed unto them / by whom the letters are subscribed: it is manifest / that that consent / and subscription off the people / occupied some room in that decree. Nether is that alleged out of M. Calu. any thing against that I said / that the people had to do in it / and gave consent: but giveth as much to the church as I / in saying / the church committed the matter unto the decision of the Apostles, and Doctors: as though it belonged unto the church / and the church / had put it over unto them. It is enough for me / that the churches subscription was there / and that not for a cipher. Therefore although S. Luke / for shortness sake did call it the decree off the Apostles / and Elders: yet S. Paul which gave them to the churches / and which in other places standeth so much upon the authority off the churches / to stop the mouth off the contentious: did not (by all likelihood) omit the authority off the church / to give them the more grace with the churches / unto the which he delivered them.
Those verses off the 22. and 23. off the 25. Actes whiche yow ⟨p. CXCIX⟩alledge / shewe who bore the swate / in the makinge of that decree: But yet in that the letters were written in the churches / and not onely in the Apostels / and Elders names: and for that the decree 1is ascribed vnto them / by whome the letters are subscribed: yt is manifeste / that that consente / and subscription off the people / occupied some rowme in that decree. Nether is that alledged owte of M. Calu. any thinge againste that I saied / that the people had to doo in yt / and gaue consent: but giueth asmuch to the church as I / in saying / the churche committed the matter vnto the decision of the Apostels, and Doctors: as thowghe it belōged vnto the churche / and the churche / had put yt ouer vnto them. Yt is enoughe for me / that the churches subscription was there / and that not for a cyphre. Therfore althowghe S. Luke / for shortnes sake did call yt the decree off the Apostels / and Elders: yet S. Paule whiche gaue them to the churches / and whiche in other places standeth so muche vppon the authoritie off the churches / to stoppe the mowthe off the contentious: did not (by all likelihood) omyt the authoritie off the churche / to gyue them the more grace withe the churches / vnto the whiche he delyuered them.