A18080:463
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
I ask if any man can reasonably think / that in one and the same ceremony / common aswell unto us off the New Testament / as those off the old / Saint Luke would leave both the manner of speech of the Hebrews / and the words off the 70 interpreters: to take a strange phrase from the one / and divers words from the other? or whether he would leave the phrase / and words which the Jews / and gentiles were acquainted with: to use a phrase which the Jews never hard of / and a word which was in that signification / unknown unto the Gentiles? off all which when there is no one / which hath not force to persuade ⟨p. CCV⟩this sentence: so the last is such / that it leaveth no place unto any resistance. For when the holy ghost speaketh with the tongues off men / and to their understanding: if by this word lifting up off hands, he had signified a laying on of hands: he could not have been understanded / seeing that word was of no such signification in that tongue.
I aske yff any man can reasonably thinke / that in one and the same ceremonie / commen aswell vnto vs off the Newe Testament / as those off the oulde / Saint Luke woulde leaue bothe the maner of speache of the Hebrewes / and the wordes off the 70 interpreters: to take a straunge phrase from the one / and diuers wordes from the other? or whether he woulde leaue the phrase / and wordes which the Iewes / and gentils were acquainted withe: to vse a phrase whiche the Iewes neuer harde of / and a worde whiche was in that signification / vnknowen vnto the Gentils? off all whiche when there is no one / which hath not force to perswade ⟨p. CCV⟩this sentence: so the laste is suche / that yt leuethe no place vnto any resistance. For when the holy goste speaketh with the tonges off men / and to their vnderstandinge: if by this worde lifting vp off handes, he had signified a layinge on of handes: he coulde not haue beene vnderstanded / seinge that worde was of no suche signification in that tonge.
And where he saith / I oppose my bare conjectures, to improve so many learned mens judgements: I have showed how he hath over told. I have no where reasoned against you / as if you should affirm that by that word, the laying of on hands, should be meant. Therefore if you had spared that cavil / you might have been clear of two moe errors which you are fallen into / by affirming partly / that S. Luke by the word lifting up off hands, signifieth the whole solemnity of creating ministers (which can not be true / seeing he expresseth two other parts off it / which are prayer / and fasting) partly in affirming / that he doth in the words off laying on off hands all ways understand, the bare laying on off hands only: when as in two off those places