A18080:470
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Hereto make an end of this dispute / I will answer that which is brought off this word p. 163. And first I deny that ever I said / that this word by it self, without joining any thing unto it, signifieth election off many by voices. for it can not signify any thing / unless it be joined with something. These words (off the churches) although they declare of whom the election was made: 1yet they are not added to note the manner of the election / as the word Act. 14. but to give credit unto the ambassadors / with the churches unto which they went / that they might safely commit their money unto them / for the behoof of the church off Jerusalem. Therefore it is nothing you allege / that this addition off the churches had been needles, if the word lifting up off hands, had signified off it self an election by voices. For Saint Paul should not have to the full / advanced their credit with the churches: if he had given only to understand / that they were chosen by voices of ⟨p. CCVIII⟩many: considering that they were chosen / not only by the voices of many men: but by the voices off many churches. Whereupon I conclude / that S. Luke Act. 14. used that word as the Grecians before him / for election by suffrages: and withal put him in mind / that his certain and manifest things, have neither ground to stand on / nor light to show them by.
Hereto make an end of this dispute / I will answer that vvhich is brought off this vvord p. 163. And first I deny that euer I saide / that this word by it selfe, withowte ioininge any thinge vnto yt, signifieth election off many by voices. for yt can not signifie any thinge / vnles yt be ioyned with somethinge. These vvordes (off the churches) althowghe they declare of vvhome the election vvas made: 1yet they are not added to note the manner of the election / as the vvorde Act. 14. but to gyue credite vnto the embassadors / vvith the churches vnto vvhich they wente / that they mighte safely committe their monie vnto them / for the behoufe of the churche off Ierusalem. Therfore it is nothinge yow alledge / that this addiciō off the churches had bene needles, if the word liftinge vp off handes, had signified off it selffe an election by voices. For Sainte Paule shoulde not haue to the full / aduanced their credite vvith the churches: if he had giuen onely to vnderstande / that they were chosen by voices of