A18080:483
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Now let us see whether the exposition off the Ans. vvill 1maintain this saying. To accord him and Cyprian / we must first expound thes words to have power to choose, and to have power to refuse, to be to stand by while they be chosen, or refused. Which master D. gathereth belike / because Cyprian saith / the election must be had the people being present. In deed it appeareth the manner was then / that he that was to be chosen / was before them: but is it a good reason / that Cyprian would have the people present at the election / therefore he would not have them to choose? seeing he had said immediately before / that they had power to choose. It is well therefore / that he added / that it ought to be done by their judgement: so that if the church judged him not meet / he ought not to be minister. And further addeth (which the D. is afraid of / and which he shamefully denieth ⟨p. CCXIIII⟩in state words) by their voices.
Nowe let vs see vvhether the exposition off the Ans. vvill 1mainteine this sayinge. To accorde him and Cyprian / vve muste firste expounde thes vvordes to haue povvre to chuse, and to haue povvre to refuse, to be to stande by while they be chosen, or refused. Whiche maister D. gatherethe belike / becawse Cyprian saithe / the election muste be had the people beinge presente. In deede it appearethe the maner was then / that he that was to be chosen / was before them: but is it a good reason / that Cyprian woulde haue the people presente at the election / therfore he vvoulde not haue them to chuse? seinge he had sayde im̄ediatly before / that they had powre to chuse. Yt is well therfore / that he added / that yt owghte to be doone by their iudgemente: so that if the churche iudged him not meet / he owghte not to be minister. And further addeth (vvhich the D. is afraid of / and whiche he shamfully deniethe ⟨p. CCXIIII⟩in state wordes) by their voices.
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