A18080:475
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The Adm. reason you are not able to stir. For if S. Paul. For avoiding suspicion in a money matter, did communicate the election with 1the churches: why should he not to avoid suspicion, off partiality / ambition / and tyranny / communicate with them the election off the ministers? Surely he was as far from suspicion off this covetous treachery with all men: as from suspicion off these faults. And so much farther / as such excellent wits / and learning as was in him / are easier overcome off those other vices / then off this pilfering off money: which the grosser / and unlearned sort for the most part offend in. Na why should not S. Paul be in fear off this money suspicion / if he had taken upon him the election off the ministers / shutting out the churches? Do you ⟨p. CCX⟩think that those which would have done him that injury / to think that he would have turned the church money unto his 2own use (which often times with his own hand earned both his own living / and others too / which refused the wages which he might justly have challenged) would not also have suspected him off the same fault / if he had chosen the ministers at his pleasure / without consent off the church? Or do you not think that there are many / which suspect divers off the Bishops that way: which say that for a dish of fruit of the golden gaiffe / they lease out / and make all manner off merchandise of the Lords orchards: that he which hath no gift in his heart / yet if he have a gift in his hand / need no other key to open the church door / and enter into a benefice? If therefore for the avoiding of suspicion of corruption by money / it was needful for Saint Paul / to communicate the election off such ministers with the church: how much more was it needful / for the avoiding off both the suspicion off that vice / and divers others / he should do the like in the ordinary ministers? And if that where needful in S. Paul / for upholding off his honest estimation to the greater fruit off the gospel: I say as I said / what Archbishop shall dare take upon him the making off a minister, without consent off the church? For if Saint Pauls innocency of life / which (as the diamond a pebble stone) might shame all the Archbishops that live this day / had need off this aide:
The Adm. reason yow are not able to stir. For yf S. Paul. For auoiding suspicion in a monay matter, did communicate the election with