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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
But now he seethe the untruth off this saying / he casteth ⟨p. CCXII⟩it upon Master Musc. and he must bear the weight off it. But such most gross ignorance off the estate off the primitive church / was far from him. And Master Musc. cleareth him self off it well. For when he sayeth / that the election of the minister by the voices off the church, endured unto Cyprian's time: he meaneth not as the D. to put difference between the elections made by the people / and the bishop: but showeth only a difference / between elections made by consent off the people / without the magistrate: and between the elections made by the consent of the people / with the confirmation off the Magistrate. And that this is his meaning / it may easily appear. For pursuing the proof of that election by the church without the magistrate / alleging certain Canons thus he concludeth. After this sort therefore were the Elders, bishops, and deacons in times paste 1chosen: which fashion they still retained, until the time off Christian magistrates, whose consent unto the election off the bishops, was required. Therefore this absurdity being the Ans. own / he must be content to bear it.
But nowe he seethe the vntrwthe off this sayinge / he castethe ⟨p. CCXII⟩yt vppon Maister Musc. and he must beare the weighte off yt. But suche moste grosse ignorance off the estate off the primitiue churche / was farre from him. And Maister Musc. cleareth him selfe off it well. For when he saieth / that the election of the minister by the voices off the churche, endured vnto Cyprians tyme: he meaneth not as the D. to put difference betwene the elections made by the people / and the bishopp: but shewethe onely a difference / betwene elections made by consente off the people / withowte the magistrate: and betwene the elections made by the consente of the people / withe the confirmation off the Magistrate. And that this is his meaninge / yt maie easely appeare. For pursuinge the profe of that election by the churche without the magistrate / alledging certein Canōs thus he cōcludeth. After this sorte therfore vvere the Elders, bishops, and deacons in times paste 1