The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Where the D. addeth / And some times only the minister did first choose, and then offer those whom he had chosen to the magistrate, who ratified the election if he liked it, if not chose other, &c: In deed here is an election without the consent off the people / but what is that & caetera? belike some stranger / which pertaineth not to this matter. Mark then again good reader / that if this were his own doing: there was never such a clipper off coin / as he of the writings off Godly men. For it followeth even in the same sentence / wherein the whole weight off the cause doth consist / Then the matter was brought to the multitude, which although it were not bound unto those forejudgments: yet thereby was able to make the less tumult. or if the people did begin, that was only to know whom they did most desire: And when the peoples voices were heard, then in the end the ⟨p. CCXVIII⟩clergy chose. So that nether the clerks could set in the ministry, whom they listed: nor it was not necessary to obey the foolish desires off the people. Could there be any plainer words / then that the people was not bound by that both the elders / and the magistrate had done / but were yet at their choice / if they liked not the chosen? After Master Calvin saith / that this manner off election by the ministers, magistrates, and people was in force in pope Gregory's time: and like to have continued long after.

Where the D. addeth / And some times onelie the minister did firste choose, and then offer those whome he had choosen to the magistrate, who ratyfied the election if he liked it, if not chose other, &c: In deede here is an election withowte the consente off the people / but what is that & caetera? belike some straunger / which perteineth not to this matter. Marke then againe good reader / that if this were his owne doinge: there was neuer suche a clypper off koine / as he of the writinges off Godly men. For yt followeth euen in the same sentence / wherin the whole weighte off the cause dooth consiste / Then the matter vvas brovvghte to the multitude, vvhich althovvghe it vvere not boūde vnto those foreiudgemēts: yet therby vvas hable to make the les tumulte. or if the people did beginne, that vvas onelie to knovve vvhom they did moste desyre: And vvhen the peoples voices vvere hearde, then in the ende the ⟨p. CCXVIII⟩clergie chose. So that nether the clerkes coulde set in the ministerie, vvhō they listed: nor it vvas not necessarie to obeie the folishe desires off the people. Coulde there be anie plainer wordes / then that the people was not bounde by that bothe the elders / and the magistrate had doone / but were yet at their choise / if they liked not the chosen? After Maister Caluin saithe / that this manner off election by the ministers, magistrates, and people vvas in force in pope Gregories time: and like to haue continued longe after.