The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Touching the variety of Elections / which he citeth out of M. Calvin / onles as unnatural women do their children conceived in adultery / he purpose to make away with his cause: I know not what he should mean / to offer it thus into the hands off her enemies. For he writeth thus in that place alleged. In old time ¹there was none received, not so much as in to the number off clerks, without the consent off the people: so that Cyprian doth diligently excuse him self, that he had appointed Aurelius a reader without advise off the church. And so rehearsing Cyprian's words / after he addeth: But because in those smaller exercises, there was no great danger, for that both they were in daily trial, and the function was not great: the consent off the people ceased to be asked. And by those small exercises it must needs be / he meaneth the Acolytes / the Exorcists / and the Readers: which may appear to have been in ²Cyprian's time by his Epistles. And may yet better appear / whereas Master Calvin (showing the cause / why the people was not so careful in that behalf off retaining their right) saith / For there was none made subdeacon, which under that severity off discipline that was then, had not given long experience off him self in the clerkship: and after he was tried in the subdeaconship, he was made deacon. So that it is manifest / that by the order off Clerks there he meaneth those / which were under the degree of a subdeacon.

Touching the variety of Electiōs / which he citeth out of M. Caluin / onles as vnnatural weomen doo their children conceiued in adultry / he purpose to make awaie withe his cause: I knowe not what he shulde meane / to offer yt thus into the handes off her enemies. For he writeth thus in that place alledged. In oulde tyme ¹ther vvas none receiued, not so muche as in to the nomber off clerkes, vvithovvte the consente off the people: so that Cyprian doothe diligentlie excuse him selfe, that he had appoincted Autelius a reader vvithovvte aduise off the churche. And so rehersing Cyprians wordes / after he addethe: But becavvse in those smaller exercises, there vvas no greate danger, for that both they vvere in dailie tryall, and the function vvas not greate: the consente off the people ceased to be asked. And by those small exercises yt muste needes be / he meaneth the Acoluthes / the Exorcistes / and the Readers: whiche maie appeare to haue beene in