A18080:502
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And in thes jests off yours / and accusations off my binding men unto the Ceremonial law / and bringing them to Judaism, and fetching off a mandatum out off the ceremonial law: Were you not a fraide by my sides / to thrust through Cyprian? Who fetcheth his proof for the election off the ministry by the 1voice off the people / out off the book off numbers / where mention is made also off the priests garments which was ceremonial. Or were you not afraid thus to handle Master Calvin? His proof is fetched out off Leviticus / whose special argument 2is to handle ceremonies and might not I fetch a commandment out off numbers / which hath an other scope? He only upon that it was commanded / that Moses should bring the Levites before the congregation, concluded that the peoples consent ought to be had, in the ministers choice: and was it not lawful for me having the same ground / and further also the commandment that the people should lay on their hands / to conclude as much? He toke his place from thence / where nether in the chapters before / nor in that out of the which he fetcheth this there is any thing but ceremonial: And was it not lawful for me to take this sentence / because other things in this chap. were ceremonial / but that I must needs be thus jested on / and my discretion so greatly required / in handling the scripture? Therefore I say that I citing this place am no more Jewish / then the Apostles / then Cyprian / then Calvin.
And in thes iestes off yowres / and accusations off my byndinge men vnto the Ceremoniall lawe / and bringinge them to Iudaisme, and fetchinge off a mandatum owt off the ceremoniall lawe: Were yow not a fraide by my sides / to thruste thorowghe Cyprian? Who fetcheth his profe for the election off the ministerie by the 1voice off the people / owte off the booke off nombers / vvhere mention is made also off the preistes garmentes vvhich vvas ceremoniall. Or vvere yow not afraide thus to handle Maister Caluin? His profe is fetched owt off Leuiticus / vvhose speciall argumente 2is to handell ceremonies and mighte not I fetche a commaundement out off nombers / which hath an other scope? He onely vppō that it vvas cōmaunded / that Moses shoulde bringe the Leuites before the congregation, concluded that the peoples consente ovvghte to be had, in the ministers choyse: and was yt not lawfull for me hauinge the same grounde / and further also the comaundement that the people shoulde laie on their handes / to conclude as muche? He toke his place from thence / where nether in the chapiters before / nor in that owte of the vvhich he fetcheth this there is any thinge but ceremonial: And was it not lawful for me to take this sentence / becawse other thinges in this chap. vvere ceremoniall / but that I muste needes be thus iested on / and my discretion so greatly required / in handlinge the scripture? Therfore I saie that I citing this place am no more Iewish / then the Apostels / then Cyprian / then Caluin.