A18080:505
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where he saith / he condemneth not other churches, which have 1appointed other orders of electing pastors: I report me to the reader / whether the words be general / and whether the reasons he allegeth for that purpose / be likewise. Nether can the D. show any reason why in Geneva / why in whole Dominions in Germany / Why in Scotland / in France also in the time off their peace / this order off election by the consent off the people / should be good / and pernicious in England. Which notwithstanding ought to have been showed / if there be any.
Where he saithe / he condemnethe not other churches, which haue 1appoincted other orders of electing pastors: I reporte me to thè reader / whether the wordes be generall / and vvhether the reasons he alledgeth for that purpose / be likwise. Nether can the D. shewe any reason why in Geneua / vvhy in vvhole Dominions in Germanie / Why in Scotlande / in Fraunce also in the tyme off their peace / this order off election by the consente off the people / shoulde bee good / and pernitious in England. Which notwithstandinge owghte to haue bene shewed / if there be anie.
- 1Divis. 8. pag. 169.Diuis. 8. pag. 169.
I expounded the word ought, as reason whereof the law is founded / and experience which is often times the interpreter 1off the law / taught me / to show that where the consent off all ⟨p. CCXXV⟩can not be had▪ there the thing should pass / by the most part of those which have interest. And where you affirm / that lawyers do say, that that sentence is to be understanded of compartners, or joint tenants in some house, or possession, and not off the interest off bodies politic: I am well content they be interpreters of the law which they profess / and therefore if that be showed me / I will rest in that interpretation. But the reason assigned / that it seldom cometh to pas that they will all consent / seemeth not so strong: considering that there is not so great violence done unto the words off the law / which may not be found in other places / if by the word all, the most part be understanded. Especially when although all do not agree: yet all have had free voice in that matter.