A18080:509
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Moreover we speak off an election / wherein consent is to be given / as oft as the church is destitute off a minister: and he off consent ones given for ever. We off an election which is passed / by all the householders off every church: he off that which was passed / by a few burgesses in the whole realm. We off a free election: and he off an election wherein it is by your leave / against your will. Now the Papists may clap their hands / for against all the arguments that Master Calvin / Beza / Bullinger / Zuinglius / and others bring to prove / that the church ought to have right in the election off their minister / and that it belongeth not to one bishop to choose a minister: they may answer / that the bishop chooseth not but the church / yea the whole realm. For the prince / and the people / and the whole land have given that power unto the Pope / and the pope to him: so that whatsoever is done in that election by the bishop / is done by the people. But see how I forget my self / which allege this unto him as a great absurdity / whose case in this question / is all one with the Papists: yet even with him / it shall be sufficient to untie the band, which we have bound our selves with, onles he will have the election still continue in the Popes hands.
Moreouer we speake off an electiō / wherin consente is to be gyuen / as ofte as the church is destitute off a minister: and he off consente ones gyuen for euer. We off an election which is passed / by all the howsholders off euery church: he off that vvhich vvas passed / by a fewe burgeses in the vvhole realme. We off a free election: and he off an election wherin yt is by yowr leaue / againste yowr will. Now the Papistes may clap their handes / for againste all the argumentes that Maister Caluin / Beza / Bullinger / Zuinglius / and others bringe to proue / that the church ought to haue right in the election off their minister / and that yt belongeth not to one bishopp to choose a minister: they may answer / that the bishop chuseth not but the church / yea the whole realme. For the prince / and the people / and the vvhole lande haue giuen that powre vnto the Pope / and the pope to him: so that whatsoeuer is doon in that election by the bishoppe / is doon by the people. But see howe I forget my selfe / which alledge this vnto him as a greate absurditie / whose case in this question / is all one with the Papistes: yet euen with him / it shall be sufficient to vntie the bande, which wee haue bounde our selues with, onles he will haue the election still continewe in the Popes handes.