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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
That which you call the prosperity, might well be called 1the cross / and whip of the gospel: if it drew such a tail off sin / as you suppose. For if under a Christian Magistrate / either always / or for the most part / not only the number off hypocrites / but of barefaced / and known wicked / should be multiplied: and not that only / but the good them selves should wax worse: that time might peradventure after a sort / be called the prosperity of those which profess the gospel: but how the gospel may be said then to prosper / which is so many ways plucked down / I can not understand. And this is clean contrary to the fruits of peace / which the scripture declareth. The Prophet as soon as he 2had spoken of peace / which should be published amongest the Jews: addeth that Judah should then keep her solemn feasts, perform her vows, because the wicked enemy off the church, was cut off. Whereby he doth not only show / that the end off the peace of the church / is to serve god more wholly then before: but also that the peace gave them more commodity off serving off God / then they could have in time of persecution. And if you reply that so it should be / but it is not: the answer is / if it be not so / it is through the great / and unexcusable fault off all / and governors especially: which having moe means to entertain all godliness / suffer it to go to wrack.
That vvhich yow call the prosperitie, mighte vvell be called 1the crosse / and vvhip of the gospell: yf it drewe suche a taile off synne / as yow suppose. For if vnder a Christian Magistrate / either alwaies / or for the moste parte / not onely the nomber off hypocrites / but of barefaced / ād knowē wicked / shoulde be multiplied: and not that onely / but the good them selues shoulde wax worse: that time mighte peraduenture after a sorte / be called the prosperitie of those which professe the gospel: but how the gospell maie be saide thē to prosper / which is so manie waies plucked downe / I can not vnderstād. And this is cleane cōtrarie to the fruictes of peace / which the scripture declareth. The Prophet as soone as he 2had spokē of peace / vvhich shoulde be published amōgest the Iewes: addeth that Iuda shoulde then kepe her solemne feastes, performe her vovves, because the vvicked enemie off the churche, vvas cut off. Wherby he doothe not onely shewe / that the ende off the peace of the church / is to serue god more wholy then before: but also that the peace gaue them more commoditie off seruinge off God / then they coulde haue in time of persequution. And if yow replie that so it shoulde be / but it is not: the answer is / if it be not so / yt is throwghe the greate / and vnexcusable faulte off all / and gouernoures especiallie: vvhich hauinge moe meanes to intertaine all godlines / suffer it to goe to vvracke.