A18080:554
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Here he denieth that he hath said, that the consent off the church in 1the choice off the minister, can not stand with the time off the Christian magistrate. All the reasons which he alleged are to prove / that the election under a Christian magistrate / can nor be safely / and conveniently committed unto the church: and even here he saith / it is in thes times pernicious, and hurtful. But that which can not be safely / and conveniently done / ought not be done: much less that which is pernicious / and hurtful. Therefore if you think as you speak / you think as I have said: that the churches election can not stand / with the time of A Christian magistrate. And your salve wherewith you would plaster it / that the civill magistrate may ordain so if he list, is nothing worth. For if it be dangerous / if it be inconvenient (as you say) to commit the election to the church: he ought not although he would / give it into her hands.
HEere he denieth that he hath saide, that the consent off the churche in 1the choise off the minister, can not stand with the time off the Christian magistrate. All the reasons vvhich he alledged are to proue / that the election vnder a Christian magistrate / can nor be safelye / and conuenientlie committed vnto the churche: and euē here he saith / it is in thes times pernicious, and hurtfull. But that which can not be safely / and cōueniently doone / owghte not be doone: muche les that vvhich is pernicious / and hurtfull. Therfore if yow thinke as yow speake / yow think as I haue saide: that the churches election can not stand / with the time of A Christian magistrat. And your salue wherwith yow woulde plaster yt / that the ciuill magistrate maie ordeine so if he liste, is nothing worth. For if it be daungerous / if yt be inconuenient (as yow say) to committe the election to the churche: he owgte not althowge he woulde / giue it into her handes.
- 1Cap. 6. Diu. 7. p. 184. &c.