The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

And if I had been bent upon that point: I could have cited divers testimonies / which Illyricus useth / whereby this off the unchangeable necessity off the election by the church / is confirmed. ¹As that Leo the first affirmeth / that no reason suffereth that he should be bishop, which is not chosen by the people: alleged / and pressed against the Papists off Master Calvin to the same purpose. Which place how violently / and unfaithfully it is wrested off the D. in the end of this treatise shall be considered. Also that he allegeth off Leo the fourth / and Celestine which confirmed the same ordinance with this testimony. it is not convenient, and it is against reason it should be otherwise. Likewise out off the epistles off the Archbishop off Reins in France / who divers times useth this saying / he ought to be chosen of all, whom all must give obedience unto. Last off all a whole treatise out of the second book of Cusanus: which proveth ⟨p. CCLV⟩of divers places out off the scripture / Cyprian / and canon Law: that it is no constitution off men / but the law off God / that the minister should be chosen off the church: and that whosoever doth not enter into the church by that means, entereth not in by the door, but is a these and a murderer. Thes I would have brought at large / if I had not contented my self with proofs out of the scripture / for the necessity off it: which I here have shortly set down / because I see the D. more afraid off the judgement off the ancient church / then of the scripture. so that although it be a slender buckler to shield him self / that the constitutions in that behalf make no mention off any ground out off the word of god (whereas he should rather have showed that they protested in their laws off the indifferency / against the necessity off it): yet even that buckler also is by divers Testimonies / taken from him.

And if I had bene bente vppon that poincte: I could haue cited diuers testimonies / which Illyricus vseth / wherby this off the vnchangeable necessitie off the election by the church / is confirmed. ¹As that Leo the firste affirmeth / that no reason suffereth that he should be bishop, vvhich is not chosen by the people: alledged / and pressed against the Papistes off Maister Caluin to the same pourpose. Which place how violently / and vnfaithfully yt is wrested off the D. in the end of this treatise shall be considered. Also that he alledgeth off Leo the fourth / and Celestine which confirmed the same ordinance vvith this testimonie. it is not conuenient, and yt is againste reason yt should be othervvise. Likewise owt off the epistles off the Archbishop off Reines in Fraunce / vvho diuers times vseth this saying / he ovvght to be chosen of all, vvhom all must gyue obedience vnto. Last off all a whole treatise owt of the second booke of Cusanus: vvhich proueth