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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Where he saith / it is to be noted that the liberty for the people to choose, was granted by Charles the great: note also tha• that note / is ⟨p. CCLVI⟩worth nothing. For where he would have it seem / that he was the first that gave that liberty: he is confuted manifestly by the words off Charles / a little before alleged: who speaketh of that election / as of a thing accustomed of old / and doth not make any new law thereof / but giveth his assent unto those which were made. The words you ascribe to me (that the election pertaineth not to the Emperor) I have not: I kept the very words of Platina / and nether added / nor took away from them. Where you would seem to confirm out of Platina in the life of John the 13. by the word (creating) that the Emperor chose Leo: it is but an abusing of the reader. For Platina in the next chapter saving one / where he speaketh of Leos election / declareth that that creation was nothing else / but a confirmation of the election made by the people / and clergy.
Where he saith / yt is to be noted that the libertie for the people to chuse, was graunted by Charles the greate: note also tha• that note / is ⟨p. CCLVI⟩worth nothing. For where he would haue yt seeme / that he was the firste that gaue that libertie: he is confuted manifestly by the wordes off Charles / a litle before alledged: vvho speaketh of that election / as of a thing accustomed of ould / and doth not make any newe lawe therof / but gyueth his assent vnto those which vvere made. The vvordes yow ascribe to me (that the electiō perteineth not to the Emperour) I haue not: I kepte the very wordes of Platina / and nether added / nor tooke awaie from them. Where yow vvould seme to confirme owt of Platina in the life of Iohn the 13. by the worde (creating) that the Emperour chose Leo: yt is but an abusing of the reader. For Platina in the next chapter sauing one / vvhere he speaketh of Leos election / declareth that that creation vvas nothing els / but a confirmacion of the election made by the people / and clergie.