A18080:577
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where he saith / that Musculus doth not call the other elections, forced: I would gladly know / what difference there is between forced, and thrust upon. For Musculus in the same title / maketh 1all one a minister thrust upon the church / and a minister which is not chosen off the church / in thes words. The form off election used in the Apostles times, is conformable to the liberty, and privilege off the church, whereof Cyprian made mention: and that form off choice, whereby men began to be thrust upon the people off Christ being not chosen off it, doth agree to a church which is not free, but subject to bondage. Hitherto it hath appeared that although Musc. Judgement be not wholly for us: yet the reasons which he allegeth for this cause / are such as can not be shaken. Now I will further show / that as there is some disagreement between ours / and his Judgement: so there is further distance / between him 2and the D.
Where he saith / that Musculus dooth not call the other elections, forced: I woulde gladly knowe / what difference there is betwene forced, and thruste vpon. For Musculus in the same tytle / maketh 1all one a mynister thruste vppon the church / and a minister which is not chosen off the church / in thes wordes. The forme off election vsed in the Apostles times, is conformable to the libertie, and priuiledge off the church, vvherof Cyprian made mention: and that forme off choise, vvherby men began to be thrust vppon the people off Christe being not chosen off yt, dooth agree to a church vvhich is not free, but subiecte to bondage. Hetherto yt hathe appeared that although Musc. Iudgement be not wholy for vs: yet the reasons vvhich he alleadgeth for this cause / are suche as can not be shaken. Now I will further shew / that as there is some disagreement betwene ours / and his Iudgement: so there is further distance / betwene hym 2and the D.
- 1Obtrudi.
- 2Titulo de Ministr. elect.