A18080:590
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And in Master Calvins judgement / they were both written rather for instruction off other in the church / then for Timothy / and Titus. For there being great resistance made unto those young men / off divers in the churches off Ephesus / and Crete: the Apostle to support them against their adversaries / and to gird them with more authority / so entitled their epistles: that they might know that those things they did / and taught / they nether did / nor taught of them selves / but by his commandment. As therefore all things contained in thes Epistles / were to be known off Timothy / and Titus: so were they all to be known off every one in those churches. And as there are things in them / the exercise whereof concerned Timothy / and Titus only: so there are other / the exercise whereof / did at no hand appertain to any off them.
And in Maister Caluines iudgement / they were both written rather for instruction off other in the church / then for Timothe / and Titus. For there beinge great resistance made vnto those younge men / off diuers in the churches off Ephesus / and Crete: the Apostle to supporte them againste their aduersaries / and to gird them with more authoritie / so intituled their epistles: that they mighte knowe that those thinges they did / ād tawght / they nether did / nor taught of them selues / but by his cōmaundement. As therfore all thinges conteined in thes Epistles / were to be knowen off Timothe / and Titus: so were they all to be knowen off euery one in those churches. And as there are thinges in them / the exercise wheroff concerned Timothe / and Titus onely: so there are other / the exercise wheroff / did at no hand apperteine to any off them.
As for the circumstance off the place, which he sayeth is against my reply: he showeth none. But there is a manifest circumstance against him / which the Apostle by and by addeth / keep they self pure, and communicate not with the faults off other, as if he 1should say / although thou canst not hinder the ordaining off insufficient officers of the church: yet keep they self pure. Moreover if this writing unto Timothy alone / that he should lay hands off none rashly / should give him alone authority to ordain / and elect pastors: then it should follow / that not only the church / and elders off Ephesus / but the Bishops which were there together with Timothy / should have been shut out.