A18080:594
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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If those words as I appointed thee, be referred as your learned interpreters will have them / by laying on off hands, and prayer: they 1help you nothing. And therefore I will not strive about it. ⟨p. CCLXXIII⟩Where you say / Musculus meaning is not much otherwise, meaning thereby to conclude / that he meant not to bar Timothy / and Titus off their sole election: let his words then be judge. Having showed how Mathias / and the Deacons were chosen by the church: he saith / there is no doubt but the Apostles kept that manner of ordaining. and alleging the example of the election 2off the 14. off the Acts / headdeth / therefore after fasting, and praying (which was wont to be done, in the congregation off the faithful) they ordained elders, which were first chosen of the faithful. And this form off electing, and ordaining elders, and bishops, the Apostle commended unto his fellow workman Titus, and Timothy saying, for this cause I left the at Crete, &c. for who would believe that he ordained, that Titus should do otherwise, then both he, and the rest off the Apostles were accustomed to do. And although thes words declare so plainly / that Titus and Timothy chose not them selves alone / but by consent off the churches / as more fuller could hardly be devised: yet to put all out off doubt / that he meant that Timothy / and Titus conformed themselves to the examples off the Apostles / in the churches election joined together with theirs: he doth immediately add this conclusion. Therefore both by the example, and ordinance off the Apostle in the primitive church, elders, pastors, bishops, and Deacons were in the Ecclesiastical meetings chosen off the people, by lifting up off hands. Where the reader may consider what truth he hath to look for at the D. hands: which denieth things that have so manifest / and so easy confutation.
Yff those wordes as I appoincted the, be referred as yowr learned interpreters will haue them / by laying on off handes, and praier: they 1helpe yow nothinge. And therfore I will not striue abowte yt. ⟨p. CCLXXIII⟩