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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Here be vain quarrels against the quotation / because it is 1said the gloss upon the Act. and not the ordinary gloss: all which return upon Illyricus. Belike to avoid the place which saith precisely / that the people ought to choose / whereunto the D. answereth not a word: although it be warranted by example off the Apostles / and directly to the cause / which is that the Bishops ordination / ought not to shut out the peothe peoples election. The D. upon the conjunction disjunctive / 2would prove Jerome falsified. For that in so much as he saith / if ether the people, or the bishop choose thee to be of the clergy, he would conclude / that the bishop did choose without the people. But he should remember / that if thereby the bishops election be established / without the people: by the same reason the peoples election off the minister is established / without the bishop. If he dare not say that / then let him understand / that I have faithfully followed the meaning off Jerome / and that this word (or) is not always a note off separation. Which that it may yet more clearly appear / I will show the like manner off ⟨p. CCLXXVII⟩speech off Leo the first / whose words are, no reason suffereth that they should be counted amongest the bishops, which 3are nether chosen of the clergy, nether desired of the people, nether consecrated of the Metropolitan with the comprovincial bishops. Here although the bishop use a disjunctive / as if it should be sufficient to have any off thes / and not all together: yet it appeareth both by the decrees off other (Which founding them selves off those words / have decreed that the people ought to choose with the clergy) and plainly by his words after / that he meant they should all be joined together. For he addeth / when the question shall be to choose the chief priest (which he called before the Bishop) let him be preferred whom the consent off the clergy, and people shall require: and after showeth the reason / why the peoples consent ought to be had.
Heere be vaine quarels againste the quotacion / because yt is 1