The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

And where in the end for an other reason he addeth / Augustine was appointed bishop, when Valerius bishop off Hippo was a live: I see not how it maketh for him one word. For if he think that Valerius off his Authority did it / he is utterly deceived: seeing Possidonius ¹writeth / that Valerius spake unto the people / to provide / and to ordain an elder off the city / and showeth how he was ordained by the consent off all the people. Which thing if it were not more lighter then the none days / off this Epistle off August. yet it might appear by other / as where he declareth / that Pinianns was ordained off the people / elder off the church / against his will. moe might be alleged / but thes shall suffice. Saving that I must put Master D. in remembrance / how he marvellously forgetteth him self. For granting me before / that ²the council off Carthage whereat Augustine was present / decreed that the election should be made by the common consent off the people / clerks / and bishops in the same province: he must here needs confess / that ether Augustine did there join together in election with the church / and the clergy (as they term them): or that he brake the order off the Council / which could not be without his fault / although the election off the church had been (as the D. esteemeth it) but a thing indifferent. And the truth is / it appeareth that August. had in that election / an express regard unto the decree off the council: which caused him beside the eldership off the church / and people / to send for two other bishops / to be assistants. Whereupon the reader may see / how ⟨p. CCLXXX⟩there is no light off words so clear / which Phighius / and the Ans. misled / will not give th•nser to darken.

And where in the ende for an other reason he addeth / Augustine was appointed bishope, when Valerius bishope off Hippo was a liue: I see not howe it maketh for him one word. For if he think that Valerius off his Authoritie did it / he is vtterly deceiued: seing Possidonius ¹writeth / that Valerius spake vnto the people / to prouide / and to ordeine an elder off the cytie / and sheweth how he was ordeined by the consente off all the people. Which thinge yff it were not more lighter then the none daies / off this Epistle off August. yet yt mighte appeare by other / as where he declareth / that Pinianns was ordeined off the people / elder off the church / againste his will. moe might be alleadged / but thes shall suffyse. Sauinge that I muste put Maister D. in remembrance / howe he merueilously forgetteth him selfe. For grauntinge me before / that