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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And if he say here that I deal not equally / which bar him off that authority that I have sometimes used my self▪ he ought to remember that a foreign testimony / and witness off an enemy is glorious / and that I having war in thes questions off the discipline / not only with him / but with the Papists / might with commendation strike the• things with their own sword / which he (having herein the same cause which they have) can not do.
And if he saie here that I deale not equally / which barre him off that authoritie that I haue sometimes vsed my selfe▪ he owghte to remember that a foreine testimonie / and witnes off an enemie is glorious / and that I hauinge vvarre in thes questions off the discipline / not onely vvith him / but with the Papistes / mighte with commendation strike the• thinges with their owne sworde / which he (hauinge herin the same cause vvhich they haue) can not doo.
That which is gathered off Ambroses election / out off Theodorete / is most untrue▪ for it is manifest / that Ambrose was chosen by the whole church off Milan / and never a word to prove / that the Bishops had the right off election: but the contrary by the words / and circumstances off the story. And whereas upon the bishops offer unto the Emperor to appoint one / the D. would make the interest of election / a running / and walking right: first as the emperors gave unto the bishops / things which were unmeet for them: so it was no marvel if the bishops sometimes offered unto the Emperors / 1that which pertained not unto them. Which may well appear there by the answer off the good Emperor / which refused it as a thing which he had not to do with / and unmeet for him. Secondly it is very like / that for the diversities of judgements which were amongst the people / the bishops perceiving that they should run into displeasure off one off the parties / would have been glad to shift off that evil will / and lay it on the Emperor / which was better able to bear it. last of all / they offered the Emperor that / which he willed them to do: which when it was to ordain only / as the issue declared / and not to