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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Besides that Ambrose calleth it a divine election which is made by the church / which he could not onles it were by the institution off God: the whole discourse off the Epistle teacheth / that the election off the people is there accounted off / as necessary. For when the church off Vercelli did linger the time in not choosing a bishop / when it was also infected with Heretics: why did not Amb. at least by way off Lapse, take the election unto him self / but writeth unto them / reprehending them that they did not ask for a bishop / as other churches were wont to do?
Besides that Ambrose calleth yt a diuine election which is made by the church / which he could not onles yt were by the institution off God: the whole discourse off the Epistle teacheth / that the election off the people is there accounted off / as necessary. For when the church off Vercella did linger the time in not chusing a bishop / vvhen it vvas also infected vvith Heretickes: vvhy did not Amb. at least by vvay off Lapse, take the election vnto him self / but vvriteth vnto them / reprehending them that they did not aske for a bishop / as other churches were vvont to doo?
Gregor. Nazienz. speaking there off divers elections / wherein still the people bore one part / and that without controlment: 1speaketh more for that election in that one place / then the D. hath hitherto / or in the residue of his treatise is able to show. And where he might seem to have somewhat nipped at it / in showing how at certain elections some off the people were contentious: he healeth that even in the next sentence to this / saying that at that time it was to be feared, lest he ought to judge the popular regiment better ordered, then their own: and after maketh mention off the corruption off those / which were fellow elders with his father. but observe I pray you again the D. faith fullness / which expoundeth the word churches, the clergy. Where learned he thus to expound? Let it be that as in the scripture sometime / so in the ancient fathers the eldership off a church / is called by the name off church: where can he ever show that the eldership / or as he termeth it the clergy / of one only church / whereof Greg. speaketh / is called by the name off churches? In steed therefore that he should have translated / both the richer, and they off great authority in the church, were clean from that evil: he hath translated / the churches that is to say the clergy, &c taking the nominative plural / for the genitive singular. Which although in the latin tongue / if one take not heed unto the sense / may deceive: yet when the D. had the Greek (which hath