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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Hereby also is answered the surmise off kings which being called shepherds, should by this means have their dominions restrained unto the government off one city. For the scripture having not determined / whether there should be a Prince over every city / as it hath that every assembly should have a pastor: and the enmities / and assaults against the civill estate / not being so great / and dangerous as against the spiritual: it can by no means follow / ⟨p. CCXCIX⟩that the tying off the Minister unto one church / should enclose the Princes authority in the circuit off one city. But it is to be observed / that both the D. reasons / off the Apostles visiting / and of Darius policy / lead to Rome. For it followeth upon them / that one may have oversight of all the Ministers: seeing that both every off the Apostles / had authority to visit any church through the world / and even off those three which were over the governors off 120. provinces / Daniel was the chief. And albeit we leave no place / ether to those roving / or outgrown ministries: yet the shepherds / and watchmen want not therefore their overseers, considering that the Ecclesiastical Senate / doth not only watch over the body off the church: but every one off them over an other / and especially over the minister. off thes also as every one in brotherly equality ought to admonish: so jointly they have authority not only to admonish / but by Ecclesiastical censures to chastise the default off their minister. If they also fail / the Synodal assemblies have interest / as I have before alleged. And if the fault be such as requireth civil punishment: the Magistrate is the watchman / appointed off God for that purpose.
Hereby also is answered the surmise off kinges which being called sheapherds, should by this meanes haue their dominions restreined vnto the gouernement off one cytie. For the scripture hauing not determined / whether there should be a Prince ouer euery citie / as it hath that euery assembly should haue a pastor: and the enmities / and assaultes against the ciuill estate / not being so great / and daungerous as against the spirituall: yt can by no meanes followe / ⟨p. CCXCIX⟩that the tying off the Minister vnto one church / should enclose the Princes aucoritie in the circuit off one citie. But it is to be obserued / that both the D. reasons / off the Apostels visiting / and of Darius pollicie / leade to Rome. For yt followeth vppon them / that one may haue ouersight of all the Ministers: seing that both euery off the Apostels / had autoritie to visite any church through the world / and euen off those three vvhich were ouer the gouernours off 120. prouinces / Daniel was the cheif. And albeit we leaue no place / ether to those rouing / or owtgrowne ministeries: yet the sheapherds / and watchmē want not therefore their ouerseers, considering that the Ecclesiasticall Senate / doth not onely watch ouer the body off the church: but euery one off them ouer an other / and especially ouer the mynister. off thes also as euery one in brotherly equalitie ought to admonishe: so iontly they haue autoritie not onely to admonishe / but by Ecclesiasticall censures to chastise the default off their minister. Yf they also faile / the Synodail assemblies haue interest / as I haue before alledged. And if the fault be suche as requireth cyuill punishement: the Magistrate is the watchman / appointed off God for that pourpose.