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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Against that I alleged to prove / that Junias / and Andronicus were no Apostles / for that a man may be famous amongest 1the Apostles / and yet no Apostle: he opposeth Martyr, that seemeth to doubt whether the words will bear that sense: which I leave to the readers judgement. The other reason that S. Paul calleth them kinsfolk / and fellow prisoners / and not fellow labourers / which his use is when he speaketh of those / which have any ministry of the gospel: he toucheth not. He hath raked up to no ⟨p. CCCVI⟩no purpose a number off bare opinions / which I will not wrestle with: considering that nothing thereby falleth from our cause. For if both Epaphroditus / and these be Apostles / such as Paul / and Barnab. I refer my self to that where I have showed / that that function is ceased. If in the general signification / for that they are sent to preach: it maketh nothing to the question / seeing the D. must show that there is an ordinary particular function off Apostleship / severed from the office off a Pastor / Evangelist / and Prophet. Where he saith / he alleged them to prove that some now may preach, which have no certain clear: I could not think him so forsaken off all judgement / that he would make such a conclusion: howbeit I trust now he hath his answer.
Against that I alledged to proue / that Iunias / and Adronicus were no Apostels / for that a man may be famous amongest 1the Apostels / and yet no Apostel: he opposeth Martyr, that semeth to doubt whether the wordes will beare that sense: which I leaue to the readers iudgement. The other reason that S. Paul calleth them kinsfolke / and fellowe prisoners / and not fellow labourers / which his vse is when he speaketh of those / which haue any ministery of the gospell: he towcheth not. He hathe raked vp to no ⟨p. CCCVI⟩no pourpose a number off bare opinions / which I will not wrestell with: considering that nothing thereby falleth frō our cause. For if both Epaphroditus / and these be Apostels / such as Paul / and Barnab. I refer my self to that where I haue shewed / that that function is ceassed. If in the generall signification / for that they are sent to preach: yt maketh nothing to the question / seing the D. must shewe that there is an ordinary particular function off Apostelship / seuered from the office off a Pastor / Euangelist / and Prophete. Where he saith / he alledged them to proue that some nowe may preache, which haue no certein clere: I could not thinck himso forsaken off all iudgement / that he would make such a conclusion: howbeit I trust nowe he hath his answer.