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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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An other answer is / that Timoth. was Bishop. in proof whereof like an evil shoemaker as one said / which putteth a great shoo on a little foot / he hath spent a whole sheet off papir. When 1if he had gained this point / it would serve him to small advantage: which notwithstanding how far he is from / shall plainly be seen. Therefore to give the onset off this great heap / his first reason that Timothy was bishop, because the Epistles written unto him contain the office off a bishop: proveth as well that he was a Deacon / a widow / a man / a woman / old / young / and consequently a monster: seeing he wrote off all their duties. Yea rather that he was a Deacon. Considering that there is nothing in the description off a Deacon / which agreeth not unto him: but in the description off a bishop / that which he requireth off not being given to wine, and not being a young Christian, could have no place in Timothy's instruction: nourished in the truth from his 2cradle / and so sparing in the use off wine / that S. Paul was fain to call him to a more liberal use off it. let him show therefore but one only precept directed unto Timothy in both those Epistles 3which is proper unto a bishop: nay let him show one precept (that only excepted which I alleged / off doing the work of an Evangelist) which ought not as well to have been observed off the Apostle him self / if he had taught where Timothy did. If he be able to show no one such point / which maketh him to differ from other ministers of the word: then all may see how vain a reason this is / which he hath made the groundsill off this cause.
An other answer is / that Timoth. was Bishop. in proofe whereoff like an euill shoomaker as one saide / which putteth a great shoo on a litle foot / he hath spent a whole sheet off papir. When 1yf he had gained this point / yt would serue him to small aduantage: which notwithstanding how far he is from / shall plainely be seen. Therfore to giue the onset off this great heape / his first reason that Timothe was bishop, because the Epistels written vnto him conteine the office off a bishop: proueth as well that he was a Deacon / a widowe / a man / a woman / old / young / and consequently a monstre: seing he wrote off all their duties. Yea rather that he was a Deacon. Considering that there is nothing in the description off a Deacon / which agreeth not vnto him: but in the description off a bishop / that which he requireth off not being giuen to vvine, and not being a young Christian, could haue no place in Timothies instruction: nourished in the truth from his