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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
That an Evangelist at one time / may be a bishop at an other, maketh little for the D. considering that we show / that Timothy 1was even then at Ephesus an Evangelist / when he supposeth him to have been bishop. Howbeit it is unlike that they which were ordained Evangelists / and set in higher degree above the Pastor / were without their fault / thrust down unto the order of Bishops. Men now a days peradventure may choose to an office off charge / one whom upon better trial as not altogether sufficient / they may cause to rise out off his chair / and sit in a lower place: but in the Apostles ordination / especially of Timo. in whom they were directed by the voice off God / it could by no means 2come to pass. This being untrue / in the Evangelists cast down to the office off bishops: is yet more untollerable in the Apostles. For they are by this means not let / but cast headlong down / from the highest stair in the ministry / unto the lowest almost: yea by the D. saying (which maketh the Pastor / and the Doctor all one) even unto the lowest. But it can not be / that they which were appointed by the voice off Christ immediately to the Apostleship / can ether off their own / or any other authority in earth / be put from that ministry. And therefore our men do substantially dispute against the Papists / which would have Peter bishop of Rome: for that being ordained an Apostle / he could not betake him unto the office off a bishop. which the Answ. with divers other grounds / would to maintain his phantasies gladly shake.
That an Euangelist at one time / may be a bishop at an other, maketh litle for the D. considering that we shewe / that Timothe 1was euen then at Ephesus an Euangelist / when he supposeth hym to haue bene bishop. Howbeit it is vnlike that they which were ordeined Euangelistes / and set in higher degree aboue the Pastor / were without their fault / thrust downe vnto the order of Bishops. Men nowe a daies peraduenture may chuse to an office off charge / one whom vppon better triall as not altogether sufficient / they may cause to rise out off his chaire / and sit in a lower place: but in the Apostels ordinatiō / especially of Timo. in whom they were directed by the voice off God / it could by no meanes 2