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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
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Where he saith there want no provokinges to draw them to the ministry: even that is an other cause off this scarcity. for the church livings so unequally divided / that some few being drunken / the most hunger: discourage from that study. For the parent ⟨p. CCCLXXII⟩which followeth the sent off honour / and gain in Archbishoprics / bishoprics / and other such poisons off the ministry: is oftentimes beaten back by despair / that they shall not attain to that gain / which desired as they think off many / can be obtained but off few. He that is willing his son should serve in the estate off a Minister / and looketh with a more single eye / to the continuance off true religion unto his posterity: yet when he considereth how few livings there be (those excepted wherewith he will not have his son defiled) able to maintain the pastor with his competent household / honestly / he applieth him to an other trade of life. Whereof although occasion be given by horrible unthankfulness off men / which in steed off giving some thing into the treasury off the church / have by their pillage brought her almost to stark beggary: yet that parent should consider / that the lord will never leave / nor forsake his / and that 1gold and silver is the Lords. Which seeing he furnished to those / that in simplicity sought the building off his house / out off the coffers off heathen Princes: he will much less suffer them to want necessaries under godly / and Christian. But this place is plentifully handled in the foresaid book off disc•p••ne. I only (because the question was here off the cause off wanting sufficient pastors) touched it.
Where he saith there want no prouokinges to drawe them to the mynistery: euen that is an other cawse off this scarcety. for the churchliuinges so vnequally deuided / that some fewe being druncken / the moste hunger: discourage from that study. For the parent ⟨p. CCCLXXII⟩which followeth the sente off honour / and gaine in Archbishoprickes / bishoprickes / and other such poisons off the ministery: is oftentimes beaten backe by dispaire / that they shall not atteine to that gaine / which desired as they thincke off many / can be obteined but off few. He that is willing his sonne should serue in the estate off a Minister / and looketh with a more single eye / to the continuence off true religion vnto his posterity: yet when he considereth how fewe liuinges there be (those excepted wherwith he will not haue his sonne desiled) able to mainteine the pastor with his competent howsehold / honestly / he applieth hym to an other trade of life. Wheroff although occasion be gyuen by horrible vnthankefullnes off men / which in steed off gyuing some thing into the treasury off the churche / haue by their pillage browght her almoste to starck beggery: yet that parent shoulde consider / that the lord will neuer leaue / nor forsake his / and that