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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where upon that preaching is called both planting / and watering 1it is showed that as the husbandman receiveth not fruit, onles both be done, so no salvation to be looked for, where is no preaching: he answereth that there is showed how the word off God is not effectual, onles God give increase: which is to no purpose. For he not only showeth that / but that God giveth his increase through their preaching: and that they be the husbands by whose preaching the Lord maketh his orchard. He answereth further / that in this place there is no comparison between reading and preaching: but considereth not how the scripture giveth this / as also those before cited / unto simple reading / thereby singularly exalting preaching above bare reading. So that although some off thes in some degree / or all extraordinarily may be done by bare reading: yet by thes commendations / as it were by a more precious apparel / is advanced the grace off God / more richly ⟨p. CCCLXXXI⟩reached unto us by the hand off preaching / then reading. Last off all he answereth / that tilling, and watering may be applied also unto diligent reading: where not daring (as it seemeth) say planting, he hath changed it whereof the question was for tilling: belike because he remembered he had said before / that it is proper unto the Apostles to plant. Where again his cause receiveth an other wound. For if planting be by preaching / and not by reading: then in this respect / preaching is more effectual then bare reading. Then that he saith killing / and watering may be applied to reading: he should to maintain his cause have said / as well / or as much.
Where vpon that preaching is called both planting / and watering 1yt is shewed that as the hovvsbandman receiueth not fruict, onles both be doone, so no saluation to be looked for, vvhere is no preaching: he answereth that there is shewed how the word off God is not effectuall, onles God gyue encrease: which is to no pourpose. For he not onely sheweth that / but that God gyueth his encrease through their preaching: and that they be the howsbandes by whose preaching the Lord maketh his orcheyard. He answereth further / that in this place there is no comparison betwene reading and preaching: but considereth not how the scripture giueth this / as also those before cited / vnto simple reading / therby singulary exalting preaching aboue bare reading. So that although some off thes in some degree / or all extraordinarily may be doone by bare reading: yet by thes cōmendations / as it were by a more precious apparell / is aduanced the grace off God / more richly