A18080:764
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
First he maintaineth his untrue accusation off the Adm. to 1wching their condemning off reading off scriptures. Which in comparing the words alleged by the D. with those of the Ad. in old time the word was preached, now it is supposed sufficient if it be red: I commit unto the readers judgement. And if his unhonest realing were not evident there / because off an other sentence off the Adm. subject unto reprehension: yet he layeth it open in the same behaviour to wards me. For although I have not a word against reading / and divers commendations of it: yet 2he feareth not with full throat to accuse me / as a despiser off reading off the scriptures, as companion off the Papists ungodliness in that behalf. Which although he do often / yet further then his reasons give occasion: he shall never gain off me / that I will vouchsafe him a word off answer / to all this outcries. After upon that I say / ⟨p. CCCLXXIIII⟩if I may call him minister that can do nothing but read (which is as indifferent to give him the name off a minister / as to take it from him / being left between both) the D. according to his old equity / concludeth that I signify and that plainly, how I esteem them for no ministers. Which he likewise gathereth / for that I say as they call them. Wherein I will not deny but there may be occasion given / to him especially that hunteth after it / off that surmise. But my meaning was / to note how unworthy they are / as off the office / so off the name off a Minister off the gospel: not to make void their ministry such as it is / in administration off the Sacraments. which I confess as in the Popish Priests baptism / for that they be the public officers appointed thereunto / although unduly ministered / to be the holy Sacraments off Christ. And that this was my meaning might easily have been gathered / in that I allowing off the administration of Sacraments by Heretics / so much worse then they / as as it is to teach falsely then not to teach at all: could by no equal interpretation / be judged to condemn the Sacraments ministered by them.
First he mainteineth his vntrue accusation off the Adm. to 1wching their condemning off reading off scriptures. Which in comparing the wordes alledged by the D. with those of the Ad. in ould time the vvord vvas preached, novv it is supposed sufficient iff it be redd: I commit vnto the readers iudgement. And if his vnhonest realing were not euident there / because off an other sentence off the Adm. subiect vnto reprehension: yet he laieth yt open in the same behauiour to wardes me. For althowgh I haue not a word against reading / and diuers commendations of yt: yet