A18080:836
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
But to come to the point off Andrues distinction: let it be considered first that our Saviour Christ is in one respect creator ⟨p. CCCCXVII⟩/ and preserver of man kind / in another redeemer / and upholder of his church. For he created once / and preserveth daily as God coequal with his Father / and holy spirit: but he both redeemed once / and daily gathereth his church / as mediator of god and man. in which respect even yet in his infinite glory he enjoyeth / he is / an shall be under his father / and holy ghost: until having put down all rule / and power / he shall render the kingdom to his 1Father. Secondly it is to be considered / that as our Saviour Christ doth thes in diners respects: so he doth them by divers means. To wit that as God simply he hath ordained certain means / to serve his providence in the preservation of man kind: so as God and man / he hath ordained other certain / for the gathering / and keeping off his church. Thes grounds laid / it is to be considered / whether the exercise off the sword by the magistrate / come from our Saviour Christ preserver off man kind / wherein he is coequal to his father: or as mediator off his church / wherein he is inferior. Where forasmuch as our Saviour Christs kingdom was not of this world / and that against horrible disorders in his church / punishable by the sword / he did not (one extraordinary whipping excepted) draw it: and considering that this lawful ordinance off God / is not only in the church / but without: it is manifest that our Saviour Christ in respect off his mediatorship towards us / exerciseth not the civil sword. For in that he said his kingdom was not off this world / he made an opposition not unto the wicked off the world / as other some times but unto Caesars authority / which was the ordinance of God / whereto he was falsely charged to have made claim. And in that he drew not the sword against open disorders / it argueth that that was without the compass off his vocation: otherwise he would never have suffered the glory of God / to have been trodden under feet. And in that the authority off the sword in heathen princes (although not a like used) is the same ordinance off God that in Christian: the one proceeding off God immediately / and not from our Gaviour Christ as mediator / the other doth likewise. But why should we wrestle further in this point with Andrew?
But to come to the poinct off Andrues distinction: let yt be consydered fyrst that our Sauiour Christ ys in one respecte creator