A18080:845
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The distinction also of the Magistrate / and off the minister / wherein the weight of this cause lieth / is not touched. This division off dominion, is altogether idle. for it is plain that when I say the civil Magistrate is severed by bearing dominion / from the ecclesiastical person: I meant lawful. and when as I deny / that the ecclesiastical person can exercise any dominion at all: what place is there left to this division? for what dominion soever he had proved / to have been lawful for an ecclesiastical person / had been sufficient overthrow of that I set down. And as the division is superfluous: so it is unskilful. For the two first parts / the rule with oppression, and the rule described 1. Sam. 8. be all one: and the last member comprehendeth all that go before. And so it is not only no good division / but no division a• all. Nether is he any happier in applying off it. for where my second proposition was / that the ecclesiastical person is severed from the civil by bearing dominion: he saith / that is true in the two first significations. Whereby must follow / that ether it is lawful for the civil magistrate ⟨p. CCCCXXIII⟩to rule with oppression / or else for the Bishop. For if it be lawful for nether of them: then one is not severed from the other / in those kinds off dominion. The last section off the 62. page / &c. pertaining altogether unto the question off Bishops bearing civil offices. I will put over unto the proper place. Here the question is only / what belongeth to the minister in respect off his ecclesiastical ministry.
The distinction also of the Magistrate / and off the minister / wherin the weight of this cawse lieth / is not towched. This diuision off domynion, is altogether idle. for it is plaine that when I say the cyuill Magistrate is seuered by bearing domynion / from the ecclesiasticall person: I ment lawfull. and when as I deny / that the ecclesiasticall person can exercise any domynion at all: what place is there left to this diuision? for what dominion soeuer he had proued / to haue bene lawfull for an ecclesiasticall person / had bene suffycient ouerthrow of that I set downe. And as the diuision is superfluous: so yt is vnskilfull. For the two first partes / the rule with oppression, and the rule described