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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Whereby him that sitteth at the table, he would have the people understanded: he is grossly overseen. for so by the testimony off our S. Christ / the people should be greater then he him self: seeing he affirmeth / that he which sitteth is greater then he which waiteth. For noting the dignity off a minister / by that usually annexed unto masters / to sit at the table while their servants wait: he teacheth that forsomuch as he their master / to whom it appertained to sit / and be waited upon / was unto them rather as a servant waiting / then a master sitting at the table: much more they being fellows / should serve one an other. Where you charge me for not truly translating the greek word: I appeal to the masters ⟨p. CCCCXXX⟩1off that tongue / whether I have followed the natural etimol• gie. Where you ad that it signifieth the chief ruler, or guide in every business: I acknowledge you for no Lexicon / and being in controversy / it ought to have been proved. Stephen doth affirm that 2they which translate it a prince, have no ground that he can tell off. What cheifty S. Peter had amongest the residue off the Apostles / shall be considered in a more fit place: it shall be sufficient here to have noted / that the Ans. exposition off the word / first is the same with Hardinges: and my exposition which he here confuteth / alone with the bishops which he confirmeth by good arguments / where he denieth that S. Peter was Prince of the 3Apostles / or Lord over them / or had power / or dominion over them. Then it overthroweth Musculus. For where he saith that Peter was found in many places to have been chief amongest the rest: the D. by this exposition / maketh him chief simply in all places. Thus it may appear / that your cause findeth small heartening at Musc. hand.
Whereby him that sitteth at the table, he would haue the people vnderstanded: he is grosly ouerseen. for so by the testimony off our S. Christ / the people should be greater then he him self: seing he affirmeth / that he vvhich sitteth is greater then he vvhich vvaiteth. For noting the dignitie off a minister / by that vsually annexed vnto maisters / to sit at the table while their seruātes wait: he teacheth that forsomuch as he their maister / to whom it apperteined to sit / and be waited vpon / was vnto them rather as a seruant waiting / then a maister sitting at the table: much more they being fellowes / should serue one an other. Where yow charge me for not truly translating the greeke word: I appele to the maisters