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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
In that sense which I have showed in an other place / I 1grant it true which Jerome saith / that all bishops succeed unto the Apostles: but show me who speaketh any thing off the succession off the archbishop unto them. Nay verily that is flat against the archbishops authority. For if every bishop have that authority in his church / which the Apostles had in all the world: it followeth that there nether needeth / nether can be any archbishop to receive any thereof. And that if any archbishop challenge a greater authority / then is in any one bishop: he pulleth to him self greater authority in his province / then ever the Apostles had in the world. And by the same reason that they be Lords / and superiors over bishops: they must be lords / and superiors in their province over the Apostles them selves / if they were alive. Considering they rule over those / which in their dioceses have the same authority that the Apostles had. This I speak / not that I think the Bishops had not this authority / from the very birth / and foundation off the function / as touching the government off their churches / or that there came any authority unto them by the Apostles death / which they had not in their times: but that it may be understanded / that if there were any such succession unto the Apostles government / as the D. fancieth: the bishops are the right beyres / and that not certain (other some shut forth) but every one as Jerome saith. Although if the archbishop should have an Apostolical authority in governing his province: it hath appeared / and more shall (God willing) that the Apostles government was far from that principality / and rule one over an other / which the archbishops challenge over their under bishops. The next division I will not answer. The next unto that / I report me to the reader / whether I have faithfully / and almost servilely bound my self unto his words / in translating thes pieces of his latin pamphlet. For the next also / I having showed that you placing the Apostles function in preaching / and ministering ⟨p. CCCCLIX⟩the Sacraments / not in government: and assigning to the archbishop both Administration off the word / and Sacraments / and order and discipline / must needs lay greater weight upon the archbishop / then upon the Apostles: if you now revoke it / I am glad.
In that sense which I haue shewed in an other place / I