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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The argument which you say is too bad for a boy, is as good as I can make any. I will leave it to the judgement of all which have skill / how you uncover your self in your exceptions against it. For to omit that I have said / and leave to be judged / of arguments good of particulars: my first proposition is universal / if this be / the servant that knoweth his masters vvill, and doth it not, shall be beaten with many stripes: and this / they that do the vvill of my father which is in heaven, shall enter into the kingdom off heaven: he that is not with me, is against me: those which go after other gods, shall lose their good: and an infinite number moe / to be seen both in holy / and profane writers. But as the ruder sort know not the King / onles he have his ⟨p. CCCCLXIIII⟩crown upon his head: so the D. hath no mark to know a general proposition by / onles it have this word All, upon the head of it.
The argument which yow say is too bad for a boy, is as good as I can make any. I will leaue it to the iudgement of all which haue skill / how yow vncouer yowr self in yowr exceptions against it. For to omit that I haue said / and leaue to be iudged / of argumentes good of particulers: my first propositiō is vniuersall / if this be / the seruant that knovveth his maisters vvill, and doth it not, shall be beaten vvith many stripes: and this / they that doo the vvill of my father vvhich is in heauen, shall enter into the kingdome off heauen: he that is not vvith me, is against me: those vvhich goe after other gods, shall lose their good: and an infimite nomber moe / to be seen both in holy / and prophane writers. But as the ruder sort know not the King / onles he haue his ⟨p. CCCCLXIIII⟩crowne vpō his head: so the D. hath no marck to know a generall proposition by / onles it haue this word All, vppon the head of it.
Likewise where he saith this word (only) is not to be found in the second proposition: He should have understanded / that it is a part off the principal extremes / and therefore could not enter there. It is his great want / that he can not know one term / from another / onles they stand in their natural order. for because he saw not thes words (only are sufficient) in the natural place off the extreme / as one that had no mark to discern the master from the man / but by going before and behind / he taketh one for another. When S. John saith in the beginning was the word, and by and by after / God was that word, with many such examples both in holy / and profane writ: those that have but a little judgement can tell / that although he changed the natural order / yet those are still the first parts / which are put in the later place: and that it is as much as if he had said / The word was in the beginning, and the vorde was God. This is therefore the argument, which in the Ans. sight hath no manner off form. Those functions which have all gifts needful / ether for the ministering off the word / and Sacraments / or for the government off the church / only are sufficient: the functions reckoned up off Saint Paul in both the places / to the Ephes and Corinth. have all gifts needful / ether for ministering off the word / and Sacraments / or for government of the church: therefore those functions only are sufficient. Let the reader therefore judge / whether this argument be like unto thes sweepings / that he hath matched it with. That an archbishop is a